Happy St. Patrick’s Day from my LEGO counterpart. I think I should test out that old healing factor, maybe ask Thor for a drinking contest…or Stark for that matter.
I’m not entirely sure how to respond to this.
Grab that DP booty!
Deadpool Kills Deadpool, Issue #2
I really hate Natasha Romanoff. I love Scarlett Johansson as an actress and in all of her other roles but hate Natasha. I didn’t like her in Ironman 2 when she tried to sleep with Tony (no one will convince me otherwise) and I still don’t like her when it comes to the movie The Avenegers. She doesn’t bring anything except a set of boobs to a sausage fest. Whenever anyone in the Marvel fandom talks about a strong, independent women they bring up Natasha and Sif. That annoys the hell out of me because every woman in the Marvel fandom is strong. Pepper is independant and puts up with Tony’s shit which is a super power in itself. Maria Hill is Fury’s second in command and is sure ass hell just as strong as Natasha, if not stronger because Maria challenges the Director instead of just following orders. Jane Foster is woman that knows what she wants and knows where her life is going. She loves a Norse Gods and deserves him way more than Sif does. Even Darcy deserves some credit, she’s never backs down and stayed strong even when SHIELD agents went and stole all of her’s and Jane’s stuff,. I’m really sick of Natasha and Sif being the only “strong” women in the Marvel universe. Physically yes they both are superior but intellectually, emotionally, they seriously lack. Neither have people skills, Sif uses her fists and Natasha sleeps around. Thats another thing thats bothering me. Why the hell does she have to hook up with Steve in Captain America 2? I mean come on! There are other females out there! They don’t need her to be with EVERYONE. UGHHH and I know this is an unpopular opinion but i’m sick of all the praise she gets while other who are more worthy get overlooked.
You chose to bring your hate to the tags, I chose to call you out on it.
I will take this on, point by point, because there’s too much wrong with this to tackle all at once.
1. Natasha did not try to sleep with Tony in IM2. She was keeping the cover of a young legal secretary—a twenty-something working for one of the richest and most famous people on the planet. Her role demanded that she be enamored with Tony Stark. She played that role well. And even if she had been trying to sleep with him, so…? They were a canon couple in the Marvel universe. It would be a founded ship with precedent.
Also, just saying that ‘no one can convince you otherwise’ immediately devalues your opinion. We speak facts here on the Internet.
2. ‘She doesn’t bring anything except a set of boobs to a sausage fest.’
Oh sweet baby Jesus, hold my feminist flower.
MCU has done a WONDERFUL job of keeping Natasha Romanoff from becoming sexualized. She is only sexualized through the eyes of Tony Stark in IM2 (see the epic kickboxing scene). Even in the Avengers, her catsuit is barely revealing. She shows the faintest hint of cleavage (oh God, a little bit of boob, how scandalous). But really here, the point is what she does, not what she wears, so let’s talk about Natasha Romanoff’s role in the Avengers:
We first see Natasha being held captive and interrogated. It’s at this point where Phil Coulson calls to inform her that her partner has been compromised, and despite her seriously annoyance that HER interrogation has now been interrupted, she kicks serious ass to help her partner. She convinces Bruce, aka the Hulk, whom she is clearly (and reasonably) terrified of, to come help SHIELD save the world. She introduces Captain and Bruce, helps them get acquainted and settled on the Helicarrier. She mediates between the entire team, outsmarts Loki, faces down the Hulk, overcomes her terror to stop her partner, manages to bring said partner out of Loki’s mindcontrol, and wades into a war she was never meant to fight.
And while she’s there, she kills many, many aliens with her weapons, her fighting skills, and even learns to use their weapons against them. She hops a ride aboard the hovercraft to shut down the tesseract portal.
Oh yeah, she shut down the tesseract portal.
Looks to me like Natasha brought together the Avengers and helped save the day. Might be why she got the most screen time second only to Tony Stark. Two inches of cleavage isn’t that worthy (and trust me, I love boobs just as much as the next person).
3. ”Whenever anyone in the Marvel fandom talks about a strong, independent women they bring up Natasha and Sif. That annoys the hell out of me because every woman in the Marvel fandom is strong.”
This is the only good argument you make. Yes, there are many, many strong female characters in the Marvel universe. Yes, I would love to see more of them get the recognition they deserve. The fact that they do not has no bearing on the strength of characters like Natasha and Sif.
Natasha and Sif get the recognition they do because they are bigger named, more visible characters.
Luna Lovegood was a strong female character in the Harry Potter ‘verse, but you don’t hate on Hermione Granger for being the lead role. Same principle applies.
4. “ Physically yes they both are superior but intellectually, emotionally, they seriously lack.”
…Did we watch the same movie? You hate Natasha Romanoff because she’s intellectually and emotionally lacking?
SHE OUTSMARTED A GOD.
SHE PUT ASIDE HER FEAR OF THE HULK TO SAVE HER PARTNER.
And those are the just the two most obvious examples! Did you leave for a bathroom break during the interrogation scene? Did you miss the part where she convinced Tony Stark she was Natalie Rushmann? Did you miss the way she helped her brainwashed partner get back to himself and win a war?!
Clearly you must have. Your version of the MCU is very disappointing.
5. “Neither have people skills, Sif uses her fists and Natasha sleeps around.”
People who use their fists in the Marvel MCU (I’ve narrowed it down to the big names for sake of time): Captain America, Bucky Barnes, Thor, Loki, Sif, Fandral, Tony Stark, Happy, the Hulk, Pepper, Natasha, Clint, Rhodey, Phil Coulson.
You’ve singled out Sif. See my feminist flower.
“Natasha sleeps around.”
Now, if you read the comic books, you might actually have a leg to stand on here. But since you clearly do not, name me ONE INSTANCE where Natasha has sex in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
…That’s right. You can’t, because she hasn’t.
And if she had? Let’s presume you know her comic book history. Let’s presume you headcanon that she slept with her marks to earn the title ‘Black Widow.’
Sex is not bad. Sex is not evil. It does not ruin her image, her strengths, or her integrity. I refer you to this post, where Kat Dennings can school you quite quaintly on why your slut shaming is invalid.
6. “Why the hell does she have to hook up with Steve in Captain America 2?”
Le sigh. You and every Clintasha and Stony shipper who are up in arms about this need to listen good and hard: THEY ARE KISSING AS PART OF A COVER.
Jesus, how plain do the director’s need to make it? They’re wearing hoods, FFS! Check out their body language—that is about the LEAST romantic kiss I’ve ever seen in my life! Natasha is a spy, a master spy. If she needs to use a time-tested cover like, “Quick, kiss me so the bad guys don’t see our faces,” then she will. Without hesitation.
Also, don’t hate on a ship before it sails. The movie doesn’t come out for ten months. You have no idea where Marvel is taking this movie.
And the last point I will leave for it’s own merit:
7. “UGHHH and I know this is an unpopular opinion but i’m sick of all the praise she gets while other who are more worthy get overlooked.”
Yep. You’re a winner.
Get your hate out of my goddamn tags.
7 point Black Widow rant…
I agree completely!